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Feature wishlist :: RE: Amazing, but could do with...

technog0d — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:42:42 GMT

Author: technog0d
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:42 am (GMT 0)

Yeah, That is my drum rack module. I am still working on it. It requires that you setup midi 1 as an inout in live. That's the beautiful thing about Mu... We can all make devices and create the ultimate control surface. I envision an exchange area for devices where you can pick and choose what works for you. I think there are some very exciting times ahead for the Lemur.

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Feature wishlist :: Displaying Group clips?

corneliusw — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:34:16 GMT

Author: corneliusw
Subject: Displaying Group clips?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:34 am (GMT 0)

I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature that isn't implemented.

When grouping multiple tracks, grouped clips are not displayed on the grouped track. For example.. I have Kick and Snare grouped into Drum Group. If I have a clip on scene 2 in Kik, the group track Drum Group shows a shaded clip in Ableton Live. On Mu, this clip can be triggered but not displayed.

I thought that maybe Live doesn't offer this information to it's API.. however, the Novation Launchad does show the existance of a grouped clip, proving that it can be transmitted.

My whole live set happens to be based on grouped scenes : )

Is this something possible in a future version of Mu?

Feature wishlist :: RE: Desired Requests !

steelymofo — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:39:27 GMT

Author: steelymofo
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:39 pm (GMT 0)

+1 for a button or switch to change global quantize value

Bug reports :: updating ?

frz01 — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:32:06 GMT

Author: frz01
Subject: updating ?
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:32 pm (GMT 0)

I've been testing the mu beta since yesterday.
Yesterday, everything seemed to work fine, and I was very amazed by the template (I still am).
But today, when moving a clip to a new place, or creating a new track, the template doesn't update. I have to move the sliders for the change being updated.
No big deal, it is working fine except that.
As I told, I was very enthousiast yesterday, so maybe I am mistaking, but in my memory, the changes were updated and I didn't have to move the sliders for that.
Am I true ?
Can someone confirm (or not) to me that the template, when working normally, update all changes without any action needed by the user ?
(And of course, I did not change anything in my setup, config or anything else since yesterday).
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Feature wishlist :: RE: Desired Requests !

n4th4n — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:20:35 GMT

Author: n4th4n
Subject: Re: Desired Requests !
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:20 pm (GMT 0)

Jipi-Sensei wrote:

an other touch to launch the metronome.

Jipi-Sensei wrote:

it's been very nice if they adapt a configuration for the default max for live instrument like : buffer shuffler (i want i want !!) , Step Sequencer

Jipi-Sensei wrote:

Thank you very much jazzmutant team !!

+1
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Feature wishlist :: RE: Amazing, but could do with...

technog0d — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:04:16 GMT

Author: technog0d
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:04 pm (GMT 0)

That may be the one I made... I haven't looked at the public beta yet. I did put together a quick drum rack module that i send over to Jazzmutant. If it is the one that I made then it requires running jazzdaemon and uses midi slot 1. You would setup live to use that input. The input is only used for the drumpads. The device knobs use OSC. Again... I am not sure if they created another one or used the one i provided. It was done really quick and as a proof of concept. I am still working on revising it.

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Troubleshooting :: Can't figure out how to add AU modules

KJ — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:53:22 GMT

Author: KJ
Subject: Can't figure out how to add AU modules
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:53 pm (GMT 0)

Hi,

I am wondering if anyone already managed to create non-live plugins. I am trying to create a Module for an Audio Unit plugin i am using in my liveset. I think i figured out how the Max part works, as well is the jzlib part but the Mu software refuses to load the jzlib, hence how does the Mu recognizes an AU and where does it look?

I have found that it uses both the device name and the device class name. I also found this back in the modules directory structure. However the class MxDevice..... are somehow routed in the Mu.devicesFolderPath.txt file. I am confused.

Anyone who can shine a light on this?

Thanks!
KJ

Feature wishlist :: Desired Requests !

Jipi-Sensei — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:04:13 GMT

Author: Jipi-Sensei
Subject: Desired Requests !
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:04 pm (GMT 0)

Hi there !!! Very Happy

First in the Transport Menu

add an option for the retard of launch clip exemple : unrolling column with 0, 1 ,1/4 , 1/16 values and "Bar" just near of this column.

an other touch to launch the metronome.

Other idea for exemple when you have an effect in a track.

An automatic scroll bar in the effect section to navigate most easily, without supporting on + and mask the remainder Wink

it's been very nice if they adapt a configuration for the default max for live instrument like : buffer shuffler (i want i want !!) , Step Sequencer

Thank you very much jazzmutant team !!

Bug reports :: RE: Live crashes while loading song with MU on

acousmatik — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:44:48 GMT

Author: acousmatik
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:44 pm (GMT 0)

Yes indeed that's the best way to avoid deceptions...

I tend to do the same or to save each time under an increased number Song01, Song02...So in case of probleme I have an not too old copy to load instead... but sometimes I'm lazy maybe, and just overwrite the file...

Anyway good to see that you didn't loose some work because of this...

Cheers!

Bug reports :: RE: Live crashes while loading song with MU on

Mat — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:35:57 GMT

Author: Mat
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:35 pm (GMT 0)

thanks for the tip!
I will remember that, when having trouble...

Anyway, as I am paranoid enough if it comes to system changes, I saved all songs where I integrated mu under a different name, so no really work was lost

Bug reports :: RE: Live crashes while loading song with MU on

acousmatik — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:12:16 GMT

Author: acousmatik
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:12 pm (GMT 0)

Hi Mat,

If you want to reopen your song just move your Max AU and VST Plugin from where they 're and load your project again...Delete Mu and save ti...Then You can put the AU and VST back again in the good Folder...

I could have reload some important crashed songs this way, that I could'nt open because of a problem with some plugins...

Maybe you already new this but in case...It's always very frustrating to loose hours of work for that....

Cheers

Brice

Lemurs in action :: Playing my live set @ROCKER33 (Stuttgart/Ger) with the Lemur

mschmahl — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:54:59 GMT

Author: mschmahl
Subject: Playing my live set @ROCKER33 (Stuttgart/Ger) with the Lemur
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:54 pm (GMT 0)

Hey!

If you are interested...
here i had a live gig at Rocker33 using ableton live with some controllers:
Lemur, APC40, MPD32. A Virus for live sounds, a Kaoss pad for fx and a mackie mixer for the sound.

I have programmed my Lemur setup with jazzeditor to use it with my live setup for mixing in ableton live and triggering loops, sounds, eqs, synth, fx, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-n2JVr9M38
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Templates :: RE: 2 macros for MU

n4th4n — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:25:00 GMT

Author: n4th4n
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:25 pm (GMT 0)

Hey thanks for this very cool! I too found the simple macro faders a little boring ... this is a great solution!

Too bad you can only run one or the other, at least for the time being. But still very cool!

Thanks!
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Feature wishlist :: RE: Amazing, but could do with...

n4th4n — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:19:30 GMT

Author: n4th4n
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:19 pm (GMT 0)

MU has a drum module. Just drag a new drum rack to a track, and its controls auto-show up in MU. Although it currently is not fully working in the BETA, Im sure it will be in the full release.
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Templates :: 2 macros for MU

Mat — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:19:31 GMT

Author: Mat
Subject: 2 macros for MU
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:19 pm (GMT 0)

Hi,

playing around with the new great MU, I tried to build my first own controls. I use Macros a lot on Audioeffect racks and I missed some of the physics on the 2 macro-controls that already come with the beta. So here we go:

http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemuruser_moduledetails.php?id=174

Just put the jzlib and maxpatches into the folder ->Mu...->Ressources->Modules->Audio Effects->Audio Effect Rack
(hm....maybe it also works on other paths, but I didn�t tried yet)

AudioEffectGroupDevice_ball
put the macros on 8 knobs (like APC40) and you got a multiball. you can route the variation of the ball to any macro via little switch...even to more than one.
AudioEffectRack_v1bp
set the macros as Y on a breakpointobject...again with physics, reminding a little bit on LoFis DyNAmic.

It works great on my system. Just drop me a line if that doesn�t work on others...

One thing: It seems that you can only use one template of each folder at the same time...so running 2 different macro controls at the same time is not possible.

Enjoy
Mat

Bug reports :: RE: Device Load

Mat — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:28:02 GMT

Author: Mat
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:28 pm (GMT 0)

yup. same problem here:
sometimes the device-choice page is flickering, cause it doesn�t get the fingerhold in that position (really annoying if you try to make a video...) I will try with nails or another touchscreen filtering...

Bug reports :: Live crashes while loading song with MU on

Mat — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:19:30 GMT

Author: Mat
Subject: Live crashes while loading song with MU on
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:19 pm (GMT 0)

Thats a really bad bug I experience: Whenever I load a song, where I have used MU and saved it with MU, Live crashes immediatly!

It says "Microsoft Visual C++ runtime error" and it drops my audiocard too. This happens every time, even with the Lemur turned off. I have to restart the computer to have my audiocard working again. I can not load any song, that I saved with MU. (well, I now save them without MU)

(system win7 32bit live8.1 max5.1 m4l)

Troubleshooting :: RE: Cant find Lemur

Mat — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:09:21 GMT

Author: Mat
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:09 pm (GMT 0)

same here.
(win7,32bit; Max 5.1; Ableton 8.1)

While rescanning several times, MU sometimes find the Lemur.

Same problem with jazzeditor: It doesn�t show the Lemur (sometimes) but I can connect via entering its IP. It seems to be a wellknow win7/Lemur bug (not only due to MU)...

Maybe the possibility to enter the IP manually on MU would help....

Troubleshooting :: Cant find Lemur

donskills — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:38:26 GMT

Author: donskills
Subject: Cant find Lemur
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:38 pm (GMT 0)

Greets,
Have been trying to get Mu to work, but cant get the Mu m4l device to find the Lemur. I am running Win7 64bit, Max5.1 and Live 8.1. I have the computer hooked up to the net on the main board port and the Lemur on a card port. I had to switch ports to get the firmware updater to find the lemur, and update. Mu also finds the lemur from this (main board) port but that is all that happens. I cant get the card port to access the net but Jazz Editor works with the Lemur on this port!! It doesn't show the lemur in the connection dialogue but connects perfectly and works superbly(after inputting the IP number). Any thoughts anyone?

Feature wishlist :: RE: Tempo Control

technog0d — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:28:52 GMT

Author: technog0d
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:28 pm (GMT 0)

We have talked about this topic quite a bit over at noisepages.com. The issue with sending anything over an ethernet connection is that your traffic is constantly fighting for contention. It may not matter in some situations, but it is something to consider. I had brought up the topic of QOS and perhaps tagging the packets with a higher priority. The other thing I brought up was having a sync server that just sends out a beacon every x amount of seconds to all devices that have registered with the sync server. This can allow for different BPM's and time signatures on the various laptops relative to the sync.

Just some thoughts

Mike
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Feature wishlist :: RE: Amazing, but could do with...

technog0d — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:23:27 GMT

Author: technog0d
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:23 pm (GMT 0)

That feature can easily be done. It's just a device that needs to be created when you open something that requires drum pads like the drum rack. I have been working on it for a little bit. The issue is that the way M4L works is that the midi effect goes after the clip. So, you would not be able to record the drums on the same track. The workaround is to use one of the Lemur's midi out's and bring it back into Live.

This is one of the things that I working on now. My time is getting really tight with some contractual obligations that are coming up soon. I will see if i can get it together some time soon though.

Mike
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Feature wishlist :: Amazing, but could do with...

Mr.Drixx — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:41:13 GMT

Author: Mr.Drixx
Subject: Amazing, but could do with...
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:41 am (GMT 0)

In the future release it would be nice to see a drum pad, sort of like a TriggerFinger. Would be ideal for fills and other various, "on the spot" type deals. Would be SO dope if you could put a TriggerFinger right there with your EFX, levels, etc.

Really loving my Lemur, keep up the great work guys!

Troubleshooting :: Unable to install Logic Plugin in Jazzdaemon for Dexter

stukiedo — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:29:46 GMT

Author: stukiedo
Subject: Unable to install Logic Plugin in Jazzdaemon for Dexter
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:29 am (GMT 0)

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to the Lemur and I'm just getting round to installing Jazzdaemon and I'm finding I'm unable to install any of the plugins as they are greyed out on the installation, I'm trying to configure it for the Dexter, I'm running Snow Leopard and logic 9, scanning for the Lemur in logic without the plugin loaded produces "unable to find new control surfaces" as expected

I would welcome anybody pointing me in the right direction

Stuart

Bug reports :: RE: Mu.jzml and Jazzeditor v2.0.2

frz01 — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:25:08 GMT

Author: frz01
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:25 am (GMT 0)

Oh man i'm stupid ! That's right, as I kept my JE 2.02, mu opened with it by default.
I will try with JE 2.03 this afternoon.
99% chance this is what hapened !
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Bug reports :: RE: Mu.jzml and Jazzeditor v2.0.2

aemea — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:51:16 GMT

Author: aemea
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:51 am (GMT 0)

Opened the zip on my mac and the Jazzeditor v2.0.3b for mac is there. However, there is no beta version in the win zip.

The problem is solved with the Jazzeditor v2.0.3b. Thanks to all the tried to help.